Tuesday, June 12, 2007

Safari now for the PC

Apple have released the Safari browser for the PC. They reckon it's the quickest web browser available and have graphs to prove it and everything. Although we all (should) know that you can use graphs to prove anything... They've updated it due to the security flaws.

15 comments:

Dodgey Phil said...

Just trying it now. So far, I'm feeling good vibes. Seems very responsive....

Joshua said...

security flaws apparently.
http://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?catid=1&id=7761
some pages seem to load very quickly some very slowly. www.theinquirer.net reckon it uses twice as much RAM as Firefox.

Anonymous said...

I have been using it and I am sold. I saw the stuff about security flaws and all the snarking in the media but it is still in Beta, lest we forget.

Eventually I will be able to afford a Mac anyway but in the meantime, move aside Firefox...

Dodgey Phil said...

Yeah, I guess security flaws aren't such a shock in a beta. Think Adam might still be right to move to a Mac though, in some ways. I left my machine on over-night, and now Safari is running pretty slowly. I'm almost certain it's all Window's fault, though. I wrote a tiny, slim, elegant system-tray stopwatch application to help me deal with the old RSI, and even that can become a quite unresponsive when Windows is playing the chump. Bit like there's no point putting a mega hi-fidelity audio system together and using a cheap amp, maybe there's no point writing a fast, slick browser for Windows - Windows will always spoil the show.

Dodgey Phil said...

Crikey - the Inquirer didn't have much nice to say about it, did they? Seemed a bit overly harsh to me...

Anonymous said...

The only issues I have:

1. It renders all "target" commands in links as new windows rather than new tabs.

2. If you minimise it and maximise it the window shrinks below full screen size.

It seems faster than any other browser, it doesn't clog your cache like Firefox.

Dodgey Phil said...

Number 2's been annoying me a bit, but as a rule I think the whole thing looks very promising.

Joshua said...

It doesn't work with blog sites properly, for example if you use the blogger span hack to hide the second half of a post, then every other browser, apart from Safari, with only show you the second half when you're viewing the full page, but safari shows it on the news page, see
http://www.digicamreview.com and this post http://www.digicamreview.com/2007/06/kodak-easyshare-m753-m853-announced.html

Joshua said...

But that problem happens on Safari on the Mac as well...

Anonymous said...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/biz/4891690.html

This article says Safari has clocked over a million downloads in 48 hours.

Anonymous said...

I have just noticed one extemely irritating thing. Safari seems to have a problen rendering PHP scripts. Every time I post to my site and go to view my post the page is blank. It takes a restart to render it properly, if at all.

Extemely annoying.

Anonymous said...

Another annoying thing I noticed: drop down menus are not alpha sensitive.

Joshua said...

I think it's quite badly broken. I know it's only in Beta stage, but you'd hope or expect the majority of things to work.

Things it doesn't do: won't let you logon to a website requiring a domain logon, or a sharepoint website (causes safari to crash). Doesn't draw web pages properly (bloglines), fonts look crappy most of the time.

At this point in time I don't think there's any point in using it. Even if they fix these problems, I think I'd still prefer Firefox (or Opera).

For a start, I don't like the speed at which Safari scrolls web pages. It's slow compared to the Windows standard speed (you know the scroll speed that seems the same in every windows application).

Anonymous said...

Yay, and it even comes up with the download box when you search ebay.co.uk when Safari decides it wants to download search.dll instead of letting you search the site... just like on the Mac!

Anonymous said...

I have removed it. It made my laptop slow right down with apps hanging even after I killed them in task manager. It did this even when it wasn't running.

It's a shame because I love the interface, styling and interface and it's rendering was really cool.