Blimy have you seen these things (AMD Athlon XP/MP overclocking and upgrade adaptor). They allow you to put "Barton" Cpus in to older 133 FSB mobos and they set switches to achieve the real clock speed. Yes you can do it by painting and cutting links, what was my point I forget.

What about these new Duron 1800's they're pretty cheap eh? Less than an XP-1800 which clocks at 1666. So is that 134 Mhz for free ? whats the cache size of these applebreds? Do the poor little buggers realy only have a 64K level 2 cache? Thats a 1/4 of the XP's or 1/8 th of the "Barton". The "old" Durons have 128K L1 and 64K L2, owww my head hurts and I've gone all cross eyed.